Registration now open for HPR

[Built-By-Bones]

May Daze PDX and Club Trials Registration Now Open

May Daze, or Build It and they will come (part 2)

The weather gods frowned on our first event at High Plains Raceway, so I appointed another chief of weather, who has assured me sunny skies and warm temps for the May Daze event, Sunday May 3rd.

Registration is now open at www.sccatimetrials.org and click on “Registration”

Do not attempt to access registration directly through the RMSolo site, there are some documents you have to read and acknowledge on the sccatimetrials.org site.

In an effort to make up for the bad weather in April, the road racers are going to be holding a Drivers School and Regional on Saturday, and the PDX and Club Trials program will hold our events alongside the Regional Road Race on Sunday May 3rd. Instructors and key program personnel will be holding training sessions at the track on May 2nd, and the PDX drivers classroom session will be held at the track on Saturday afternoon, immediately following the road racers drivers school graduation, approx 5pm.

Registration, and limited tech service will be available on Sat from 5 – 7pm.

I recommend getting your car inspected prior to the event by one of our recommended inspection centers. If you leave the tech inspection until the event, if we find something wrong the chances of correcting it prior to Sunday are really going to be slim.

Important Info

Gas Service – there is NO gas service at High Plains Raceway. Byers (17 miles from the track) has gas but no high octane 91 at the moment. Bring enough gas for the whole day, gas use on track is high.

Schedule

Sat – 7am Instructor Core, and Key Personnel track walk
8am to 12 noon – Instructor Core and Key Personnel – 2 x 15 minute track sessions with pre and post session briefing. We aim to be finished with training by 1pm.
5pm (immediately following road race school graduation) PDX Classroom, mandatory for ALL Sunday PDX participants
5pm – 7pm Registration, and Tech inspection

Sunday
7am – at the track ready to run
7:30 am all PDX cars on grid
8am to 8:35 am – 2 x 15 minute PDX sessions, 5 minute break
9am to 4:45pm – 3 x 20 minute Club Trials sessions. Practice, Qualifying, and Competition.

Prices

See website for info. Discounted rates (less $25) for drivers who were officially entered in the April event. Discounts for combined PDX and CTT entry ($200 instead of $249).

Problems, Questions or Concerns

Look at the website first, if you cannot find the answer to your questions, let one of the chiefs know

Grant Barclay – GBarclay “at” aol.com (Chief Steward)
Mark Baer – mark.baer “at” scrperformance.com (Chief of Tech)

[LoCore]

Registrated.

[GingerGSR]

Registrated.
Me 2

[John Scheier]

Registrated.

Dittogated

[delirium45]

Currently trying to move some things on the family calendar to make this happen.

[BlueVelocity]

Yep, me too.

Everyone say this with me, "warm weather, warm weather". :p

Erron S.

[usakubko]

Signed up for PDX, how can I register to work the same day? Can't find the worker's sign-up for the 3rd on dlb.

[mannix]

I recommend getting your car inspected prior to the event by one of our recommended inspection centers. If you leave the tech inspection until the event, if we find something wrong the chances of correcting it prior to Sunday are really going to be slim.


Would you say that tech for PDX/TT is more stringent than Solo?

This audience is probably pretty used to tech being a formality. I have little experience with "tech" for roadrace cars, but what experience I do have is that cars fail a LOT more - to the point that many people bring their cars to a licensed facility pretty much expecting to fail.

.02c/? - I don't KNOW that the tech procedure for this event is like the roadrace safety inspection, but I'd absolutely, positively NOT drag my car down on the morning of the event hoping I passed:).




Iain

[John Scheier]

Would you say that tech for PDX/TT is more stringent than Solo? Iain
Yes. At least for me it was... because I requested it ;)

I made the drive from Parker up to Mark's shop in Longmont (SCR) so I could have someone I trust look over every aspect of the car. Chris and Mark went over the car with a fine tooth comb (and I HIGHLY appreciate it!).

The guy that did the inspection last year was more of a 'Man... that's cool' and signed off on it. Not what you want when you do your own wrenching.

[delirium45]

FWIW - here is the TT tech-checklist:
http://www.sccatimetrials.org/SCCAClubTimeTrialsTechWorksheet.pdf

[GingerGSR]

Signed up for PDX, how can I register to work the same day? Can't find the worker's sign-up for the 3rd on dlb.
I went to the DLB site to figure it out myself. You need to click on the little man with the clipboard behind him. Then the registration form will come up.

[gordon0412]

Related to the event is the current need to take fuel. I've always avoided gas inside a car, but given the need I want to make sure I'm equipped to transport it safely. Obviously I need a good container (I followed the thread about this recently), and have one. Do I put it in the car, in my tire trailer storage box, or on the trailer itself,? The storage box is not ventilated per se, but I'd have to guess plenty of air comes in. Still, might it be wise to drill a couple of air holes in it? The other alternative is strapping the container to the trailer so it's out in the open, and obviously well ventilated. Is that the best way? The reason I was considering the car is the trailer would be more vulnerable in an accident, and thus make it more likely for the fuel container to be compromised, and spill. OTOH do I really want it in the car if the car's in an accident? So strap it to the trailer?

[Matt Leicester]

So strap it to the trailer?

What he said. Oh wait, that was you! What you said! Strap it to the trailer.

Matt Leicester

[GingerGSR]

Tire trailer, spare tires, gas cans, odds & ends = $1500(?)

'04 Z06 = $40K-$50K(?)

I know which one I'd rather have go up in flames! :eek:

[gordon0412]

Thanks gentlemen. I kinda realized the answer as I was thinking through the question.

Fortunately I bought mine used. In fact a C5 Z06 is one of the better buys on the market right now. Yes some have been raced (who would do such a thing?), but many are in fabulous condition with very low miles. Lots of fuss over the C6 and ZR1, $4 gas, and a slumping economy all really dropped the price of admission over the last year.

Of course the wheels, tires, brake pads and rotors, and after market bits are still not cheap.

[shoeish]

I am coming down from Wyoming with 4 tires packed in to my M3, leaving room for nothing else.

Any chance I could have someone bring extra fuel for me?

[Maxx schlick]

I was at the track last weekend for an event with another club and here is something that might help. Any car that went off track sank deeply into the mud. The ones that did not have proper tow hooks were very difficult and time consuming for the tow truck guys to get hooked up and dragged back on track. I took my BMW (has tow hooks) rather than sink the Vette which has no tow hooks and would be extremely difficult to get a strap onto with it being burried over the rockers in gumbo adobe mud.

I have ordered a set of tow hooks for the Vette and will be using it if I get the hooks installed in time, if not is is BMW again. Ideally you need hooks front and back.

Gordon,
The ony place I found that has a decent set of hooks for a Vette is Phoenixperformance.net
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o14/maxxschlick/Aurie%20Lyendyke/100_5532.jpg

[Maxx schlick]

just noticed that this is the heading for our Time Trials entry list:


RMSolo Winter Series Solo Event #5,
Saturday, February 7th
Dick's Sporting Goods Park, Commerce City, CO.

Entry List

[Built-By-Bones]

Would you say that tech for PDX/TT is more stringent than Solo?

This audience is probably pretty used to tech being a formality. I have little experience with "tech" for roadrace cars, but what experience I do have is that cars fail a LOT more - to the point that many people bring their cars to a licensed facility pretty much expecting to fail.

.02c/? - I don't KNOW that the tech procedure for this event is like the roadrace safety inspection, but I'd absolutely, positively NOT drag my car down on the morning of the event hoping I passed:).




Iain

I would say that tech for track driving covers more areas of the car and thus appears more stringent than Solo tech. Realistically, your vehicle does experience higher rates of wear on track, mostly because you are driving 100 miles per day, compared with 5 miles for Solo.

Tech is really making an effort to become a friendly place for assistance and advice, rather than a trying to catch something on your car and fail you. We understand that many of our drivers are new to track driving, and vehicle preparation is one of the new aspects they are learning too.

In most cases (serious safety concerns aside) you will be asked to fix it prior to the next event, and we will be noting this in drivers logbooks. There are issues that must be correct prior to an event, but these are common sense items like fresh brake fluid, sufficient brake pad thickness, no leaking fluids, enough tires.

With High Plains being located in the middle of nowhere, with a parts store at least 45 minutes away, there is very little chance we can correct some issues if you only have your car tech'd on the morning of the event - a battery tie down missing for instance. We recommend pre-event tech so drivers wont be disappointed and miss an event

good question sir

[delirium45]

I was at the track last weekend for an event with another club and here is something that might help. Any car that went off track sank deeply into the mud. The ones that did not have proper tow hooks were very difficult and time consuming for the tow truck guys to get hooked up and dragged back on track.

Yep, i had my tow hooks in for all runs on Sunday... and as if it were an umbrella on a sunny day, i didn't go off...
However, someone that i commented to about not having tow hooks in, did go off... i'm just saying...

[gordon0412]

Thanks Keith. Wouldn't my hitch mount/ball work for the rear?

East Coast Corvettes has them as well. A bit pricier, but sold separate.

No way I can get that done before the open lapping day tomorrow though. :eek:

[John Scheier]

No way I can get that done before the open lapping day tomorrow though. :eek:

Gordon, I could probably fill in for you on the lapping day. You know... if it would help out and all ;)

[gordon0412]

Gordon, I could probably fill in for you on the lapping day. You know... if it would help out and all ;)

Tempting.... but nah!

I'm pretty sure I can keep the car on the track. My first time on a brand time new track, and first time out this year I hardly intend to be pushing things. Find the line, be safe, smooth, predictable and consistent, and drive her home, those are my goals!

[John Scheier]

My first time on a brand time new track, and first time out this year I hardly intend to be pushing things. Find the line, be safe, smooth, predictable and consistent, and drive her home, those are my goals!

Same here. Just want to learn the track before CTT. I've done a ton of hours on R-factor... but I'm thinking that won't make me more than 'aware' of where I might want to be ;)

[delirium45]

Currently trying to move some things on the family calendar to make this happen.

Looks like it's not going to work out for me schedule-wise... which probably isn't all bad, considering i have a suspension issue to resolve.

Enjoy the track, i've left my top 2/32nds on the track for ya'll already. Even helped tamp down some of the dirt on the outside of T13-14, you're welcome :D

[LoCore]

Thanks Garrett. How much grip does the dirt have? :D

[shoeish]

Will anybody have extra fuel available at the track?

Can I talk somebody in to bringing extra fuel for me, on their trailer?

Please let me know.

[GingerGSR]

Will anybody have extra fuel available at the track?

Can I talk somebody in to bringing extra fuel for me, on their trailer?

Please let me know.

I can do that. 91 oct I assume? With "only" 1x15 minute PDX and 3x20 TT sessions run on Sunday, how much would you need. I can bring as much as 10 extra gallons.

[shoeish]

5 gallons of 91 octane would be perfect. thanks in advance!

[GingerGSR]

5 gallons of 91 octane would be perfect. thanks in advance!
I'll be there all day Saturday until we're done tech'ing cars and all day Sunday. Black Chevy PU w/green shell & dark green Civic - #68 SM-F.

[delirium45]

Thanks Garrett. How much grip does the dirt have?

Significantly less than when it is in /mud/ form (you can ask Steve Hahn about that). I hear it can stop a car from 60mph in about... 8 feet.

:D

[usakubko]

I'm registered for PDX, but it looks like I won't be able to come out yet again :mad: My motor mounts and my clutch are in a very bad shape, don't want to risk it. I might still come out and work though (if they let me, I couldn't find where to register).

:(

[TheMidasTouch]

Hey guys, just so that I'm clear on this, PDX has two 15 minutes sessions, then it's done. Is that correct?

This is bad news for us because we were planning on co-driving. It doesn't seem that's possible unfortunately. :( This took me by surprise, I'm accustomed to staggered sessions, so now I'm trying to figure out something that will work for both of us.

My main objective was to run my car in Time Trials anyway, but would it be too late for that? Tech can be taken care of, but what about licensing? I'm sorry, I'm still getting adjusted to a new way of doing things. Thanks!

[Built-By-Bones]

I'm registered for PDX, but it looks like I won't be able to come out yet again :mad: My motor mounts and my clutch are in a very bad shape, don't want to risk it. I might still come out and work though (if they let me, I couldn't find where to register).

:(

you dont have to pre-register, but you can through www.dlbracing.com, calendar, select CO event, and click the worker icon

that will earn you a free PDX to use when the m/mounts and clutch are in better shape

[Built-By-Bones]

Hey guys, just so that I'm clear on this, PDX has two 15 minutes sessions, then it's done. Is that correct?

This is bad news for us because we were planning on co-driving. It doesn't seem that's possible unfortunately. :( This took me by surprise, I'm accustomed to staggered sessions, so now I'm trying to figure out something that will work for both of us.

My main objective was to run my car in Time Trials anyway, but would it be too late for that? Tech can be taken care of, but what about licensing? I'm sorry, I'm still getting adjusted to a new way of doing things. Thanks!

PDX is 1 x30 minute session, or 2 x 15 minute sessions with a 5 minute break.

We have never accomodated 2 driver cars in PDX, so I am not sure why this would be a surprise.

If you have never run with the PDX/CTT program, which it sounds like, you need to complete a PDX and be signed off by an instructor before you can participate in Club Trials. It may take more than a single PDX before you are signed off, unless you have significant track experience outside the SCCA.

What is your question concerning licencing? There is no PDX licence, there is a CTT licence but only after you have completed a number of events (which you have not). Are you perhaps referring to SCCA membership?

You must be a SCCA member to participate in PDX or Club Trials. We can accomodate temporary members in PDX, and can sell you a temporary membership at the track. You must be a full SCCA member for Club Trials, we cannot process that membership level at the track, YOU must handle that before the event.

HTH

[TheMidasTouch]

We have never accomodated 2 driver cars in PDX, so I am not sure why this would be a surprise.

If you have never run with the PDX/CTT program, which it sounds like, you need to complete a PDX and be signed off by an instructor before you can participate in Club Trials. It may take more than a single PDX before you are signed off, unless you have significant track experience outside the SCCA.

What is your question concerning licencing? There is no PDX licence, there is a CTT licence but only after you have completed a number of events (which you have not). Are you perhaps referring to SCCA membership?

You must be a SCCA member to participate in PDX or Club Trials. We can accomodate temporary members in PDX, and can sell you a temporary membership at the track. You must be a full SCCA member for Club Trials, we cannot process that membership level at the track, YOU must handle that before the event.

HTH
SCCA Member Number: 406605

For the last 7 years I was stationed in Montgomery, and when I wasn't in the sand, i was racing on and off with the ALSCCA, Atlanta SCCA, and Wiregrass along with the occasional track rental when the SCCA didn't have an event. This is my first full season in this region since moving back home, and it has been a very warm welcome from most, yet an icy welcome from some. Such is life.

I was surprised because the other regions I've been racing with had a 'standard' for how they have organized events. It wasn't better, it was just what I was used too, and I made the mistake of planning around it. 4-6 staggered sessions of 20 minutes each grouped by experience and speed. Like I said, just a different approach. And again, my poor assumption.

The license question was, of course, directed toward CTT. I didn't know fully what the process was, so I'm asking here. I'm sure there are others with the same question.

So, I now understand that I will have to complete this PDX, and be signed off by an Instructor (assuming I qualify) before I can compete in CTT. Thank you. Do I need to let my instructor know my intention, or bring anything else of significance with me so that I can compete at PPIR?

Thank you for your help. This should be a very fun year.

[LoCore]

Good questions Mike--looking forward to meeting you this weekend.

Yes--let your instructor know, as well as at registration check-in that you're looking to get signed off for PDX.

[GingerGSR]

Mike FYI, the "classroom" session for the PDX is Saturday evening as soon as the club racers are done at aprrox. 5:00 PM. If needed we will tech your car while you're in the class.

[rob_k]

I have never done or seen time trials before. If I wanted to come out and check things out to see what it's like before putting tow hooks, etc on my Vette, which day would be best to see how things work and get a chance to talk to some folks about getting my car ready? Sat. or Sun?

[GingerGSR]

I have never done or seen time trials before. If I wanted to come out and check things out to see what it's like before putting tow hooks, etc on my Vette, which day would be best to see how things work and get a chance to talk to some folks about getting my car ready? Sat. or Sun?
Saturday is a regional race and drivers school for the club racers. The TT Chiefs/Officials are running a couple short session in the morning to learn the track. The school for the PDX won't be until around 5:00 PM. If you come out on Saturday noonish, we should have plenty of time to talk to you and even go over your car (Not sure, but Grant might let you sit in on the PDX class too if you can stay).
Sunday is the actual PDX and TT. We'll all be pretty busy getting the PDX'ers ready and out on track, then the entrants for the TT will be getting ready to run. There is time between the TT sessions that we could go over things with you too, but the morning gets pretty hectic. Once we're done running, everyone tries to bug-out ASAP.

[TheMidasTouch]

Mike FYI, the "classroom" session for the PDX is Saturday evening as soon as the club racers are done at aprrox. 5:00 PM. If needed we will tech your car while you're in the class.
Thanks Mark! We're both still planning on working that Saturday so we will be out there.

Tech for PDX, CTT, or Solo II? The car won't be SMF compliant by this weekend sadly. And we won't be able to make another event until after May (Disney World trip with the family). But I would like to have you take a look when possible before the next DSGP if you don't mind.

For PDX safety tech, I was going to take it to CorSport tonight and have those guys check it out for me. But if needed I can bring it up Saturday also.

I was going to go ahead and make a mad dash if possible to make the CTT this weekend. But, we're going to relax and enjoy a PDX so I can hopefully get the instructor sign off taken care of.

Since Angela is registered for PDX and working, do we remove her PDX registration? And where do we go to register her to help work?

[tag]

Since I will be instructing during the PDX my car will be available (with street tires only--my R tires only have a limited lifetime left,) but you would need a SFI rated fire suit, SA helmet, gloves, and racing shoes. I would allow you to drive it under the assumption that if you break it you would help me fix it. All I would ask is that you provide a couple gallons of gas to cover what you use.

I wouldn't suggest the car for someone that isn't familiar with racing though, because it doesn't have power steering, and although it is predictable--when it spins it happens very quickly and without forgiveness.

[rob_k]

Mark,

Thanks for the answer. I will probably try Saturday weather depending. I look forward to learning more about Time Trials.

Rob