classing

[blueSTInger]

so.... i ran in my first autoX today and absolutely loved it. everyonee there was so nice and so helpful. i thank you all for that. i did have a question though. i ran my 2004 sti in BSP. after looking at the chart on the site, it classifies my car "stock" as "AS". why wouldnt i be "ASP" or "X"? My car has all of its interior, street tires, and a stage 2 tune. i just want to be positive i am running in the correct class at the next event.

Thank You,
-Gary

[Tom Hunsinger]

Gary,

Thanks for coming out and we all really glad you had a good time. The first thing you should do is download the 2009 Solo Rule book. We have a thread on how to get it at:

http://rmsolo.org/forums/showthread.php?p=39739#post39739


Now, look up the different classes and the allowable modifications. I am not sure what is involved in the Stage 2 mods for your car, but you should be able to sort them out in the modifications sections for the various modified (Street Prepared, Street Modified, etc.) groups. After you figure out what modified group you belong to, go to toward the end of the PDF where it lists the cars in each class of your group. Find your car and you will be properly classed.

As an example: Let's say you figured out that you should be in Street Prepared by matching you mods with the allowed mods in that group on page 81 of the page numbers at the bottom of the pages and page 94 of the PDF if you navigate by the reader. Then go to the cars in SP on page 170 printed on the bottom of the pages (it will be page 182 if you are navigating by page number in the PDF). You will find that the STi is not listed in ASP but is in BSP on the next page. So this would be your class.

In short, X class is a regional index class that allows top notch drivers who continually kick butt in their regular class to square off with each other. It is described in the Supplemental Rules in the link on the left side of this page or follow this link:

http://rmsolo.org/rules.html

Feel free to ask for more clarification especially since mods really get to make things a little tough to class and we are all here to help! Good luck!

[BarryOtt]

after looking at the chart on the site, it classifies my car "stock" as "AS". why wouldnt i be "ASP".

Thank You,
-Gary

That's a logical assumption, and we all did it the first time we looked at Stock and SP rules but..... If you look some more, you'll see that there isn't a SP class for each Stock class, so the cars get divided up differently. Welcome to SCCA classing ;)

Barry Ott
191X ES '94 Miata R, White
Sound chief

[GingerGSR]

Welcome to SCCA classing ;)

Clear as mud!

Watch out for that seemingly minor thing that sticks you into Street Modified. :eek:

[rackley]

so.... i ran in my first autoX today and absolutely loved it. everyonee there was so nice and so helpful. i thank you all for that. i did have a question though. i ran my 2004 sti in BSP. after looking at the chart on the site, it classifies my car "stock" as "AS". why wouldnt i be "ASP" or "X"? My car has all of its interior, street tires, and a stage 2 tune. i just want to be positive i am running in the correct class at the next event.

Thank You,
-Gary
Its really good you want to make sure you are classed correctly, I'm sure we all appreciate it. Note that if your stage 2 tune modifies your boost levels at all, you definitley would not be eligible for a stock class. That probably means you have a turbo-back exhaust too, right? The only exhaust modifications allowed in stock are cat-back.

I wish the guy running e85 in STX with me had your attitude! :rolleyes:

[mannix]

What Mark said - before you modify the car further (and hopefully, "Stage 2" does not include a non-stock turbo), really read the rules. Ask here, or PM me if you have specific questions.

Your car can be very competitive in BSP. *SP is not a cheap class, by any stretch, but it is BUNCHES cheaper than SM, the next typical step for an STI - and a halfway decent BSP STI will be WAY faster than a not-really-SM STI.

It is initially a drag to undo neato "mods" just to fit in a class - but if your long term goals are to be competitive, it is often a whole lot more realistic to undo a few things to fit in a class "down."

That said, you're on the right track - you came out, you had fun, you're asking smart questions. If you're anything like me when I first started, you'll not heed this bit of advice, but I'll spout it anyway;).

Don't make any more changes to the car for a few events (unless something is BROKEN or WRONG), just drive and have fun. A handful of events & maybe a school or two, taking advantage of rides with experienced drivers, reading and learning will have a MUCH more gratifying effect on times than a huge intercooler or offset disgronifier bushings or whatever else there may be.

Now, I did not listen to those that told me that when I started, and the good news is simple - you'll have a ton of fun even if you DON'T listen, it'll just take longer to start winning;).

You can't lose.

STIs are awesome; they're (IMHO) really fun cars to drive, even stock. You're in a good spot.



Iain

[Mines2010]

I wish the guy running e85 in STX with me had your attitude! :rolleyes:
He is my buddy. He had no clue that it was not legal in STX. I believe he is moving to ESP next event. :D

[SubaDrew]

I spoke with Richard and told him that his mods unfortunatlely move him out of stx. Sometimes it's just tough to read the rules.

Non-stock boost puts you in BSP. If you have an accessport, you can get the STU map from cobb and run stock boost but with stage 2 mods. Otherwise you might need a re-tune to compete in STU.

BSP is a race tire class. But so far, I think only 1-2 people actually run race tires in that class locally. You can have fun on street tires and you can learn a lot so I'd recommend running them especially if the cost of race rubber is too much. After a season, re-think what you want to do and maybe look into the upgrades... Seat time is the best upgrade of all.

[PEZi303]

so.... i ran in my first autoX today and absolutely loved it. everyonee there was so nice and so helpful. i thank you all for that. i did have a question though. i ran my 2004 sti in BSP. after looking at the chart on the site, it classifies my car "stock" as "AS". why wouldnt i be "ASP" or "X"? My car has all of its interior, street tires, and a stage 2 tune. i just want to be positive i am running in the correct class at the next event.

Thank You,
-Gary

GB you just don't know how to drive... j/k
it was crazy seeing you there last weekend

after last weekend i plan on taking full advantage of my class (GP)... it may take a while for all the new stuff i plan on getting but it'll get there eventually

[RicharrdK]

I wish the guy running e85 in STX with me had your attitude! :rolleyes:

I know this is old but I'm that guy. Sorry about that, I really didn't know I was in the wrong class. As Drew mentioned, he told me I was in the wrong class which is why I'm now registering in ESP.

If you ever had a problem with me, you should of just told me.

[Randy Hickman]

I know this is old but I'm that guy. Sorry about that, I really didn't know I was in the wrong class. As Drew mentioned, he told me I was in the wrong class which is why I'm now registering in ESP.

If you ever had a problem with me, you should of just told me.

P'shaw. Sometimes, I feel like the classing rules read like an instruction manual for some kind of voodoo ritual (insert sacrificial goat [A] into fire pit [B]., unless chicken [C] has already been beheaded. Otherwise...)

Classing mistakes when you start out really aren't too uncommon. Don't sweat it, I doubt if anybody is too concerned about it. You've made the effort to correct an honest mistake. Fergeddaboutit and move on.