Divisional Course Maps Posted

[Randy Hickman]

Course maps for the Divisional have been posted:
Saturday (http://www.rmsolo.org/coursemaps/2008_Div_Course1.jpg)
Sunday (http://www.rmsolo.org/coursemaps/2008_Div_Course2.jpg)

[SubaDrew]

While I like having course map available before the race, you don't normally receive them at a national until the Friday (or maybe thursday) before the race. But I'm a stickler for punishment.

Kinch, watch more shows from later 70's early 80's.

[usakubko]

Any guesses on how fast the Sunday's times are gonna be? :p

[svtstu]

Saturday's track seems especially fun looking, too bad one of my friends weddings is at noon in masonville on saturday...

[Matt Leicester]

Have I ever mentioned how much I like two day events with totally different courses? You guys ROCK!!!!!!

Matt Leicester

[JERM]

Wow, these look like fun! Saturday's course looks like it has a loop, does that mean we have to repeat a short section of the course after completing the loop?

[GingerGSR]

Wow, these look like fun! Saturday's course looks like it has a loop, does that mean we have to repeat a short section of the course after completing the loop?

Yup, just follow the arrows.

[ncaruso]

I will do my best not to complete the loop more than once a run.....

[GingerGSR]

I will do my best not to complete the loop more than once a run.....

No, run it 3 or 4 times!!! It's a blast... of course it doesn't do much for your times. :D

[MrPickles]

A red-flag will be thrown if you go through the loop more than once, as well as a DNF being registered for the run. Quite possibly a black flag will be thrown as well

[khammack]

A red-flag will be thrown if you go through the loop more than once, as well as a DNF being registered for the run. Quite possibly a black flag will be thrown as well

7.9.3 Course Deviation
A “DNF”, or a time penalty if so specified in the supplementary
regulations, shall be charged for any uncorrected deviation from the
course, or for unnecessarily delaying the event. A course deviation
shall not be charged if any part of the car hits a marker defining the
limits of the course. A DNF is charged only if part of the course is
omitted. In returning to the course after an off-course excursion, it
is acceptable to drive a part of the course a second time.

I guess it could be considered "unnecessarily delaying the event", but in any case it would be good to announce this policy at the All Hands Meeting".

[Randy Hickman]

I guess it could be considered "unnecessarily delaying the event", but in any case it would be good to announce this policy at the All Hands Meeting".

Seems to me that flagging for multiple loops will slow the event down more than just scoring the DNF. Instead of just having maybe 10-20 seconds added to the time between starts, we'd have that time, plus the time to flag, stop the car, explain, continue course at moderate speed, etc.

I'm guessing the flag is more for safety?

[khammack]

Seems to me that flagging for multiple loops will slow the event down more than just scoring the DNF. Instead of just having maybe 10-20 seconds added to the time between starts, we'd have that time, plus the time to flag, stop the car, explain, continue course at moderate speed, etc.

I'm guessing the flag is more for safety?

The bigger issues could be that the next car is released as the car on course is expected to exit the loop, but then takes another loop. That could create a situation where there could be two cars in the loop at the same time.:eek:

[usakubko]

I think it's a good idea to announce the possibility of a black flag being thrown if the loop is driven more than once on purpose. You're responsible for knowing where you drive your vehicle. Pay attention during the walk, and look ahead when you drive. I can see rookies getting confused and driving the loop an extra time, but if a "veteran" does it, that just shows they weren't paying attention (not that this will excuse any of the rooks!).
The loops are usually pretty well marked, so there shouldn't be any reasons to get confused. If a person goes through the loop more than once, call to grid, and have them talk to the "offender". If repeated, they're out.
Just be courteous to the others. You wanna go driving in circles, go join NASCAR. :p

[ncaruso]

Just to clarify, I have no intention of driving the loop more than once.

I was refereing to an embarassing mistake I made quite a ways back.

[Randy Hickman]

The bigger issues could be that the next car is released as the car on course is expected to exit the loop, but then takes another loop. That could create a situation where there could be two cars in the loop at the same time.:eek:

I'd think (not being a safety guy, so - grain of salt) that the appropriate time to send the next car onto course would be when the previous car exits the loop.

[mannix]

I was refereing to an embarassing mistake I made quite a ways back.


That's great, no one remembered!

Heh.


Iain

[khammack]

I'd think (not being a safety guy, so - grain of salt) that the appropriate time to send the next car onto course would be when the previous car exits the loop.

OR maybe after they pass the entrance to the loop so we know they won't be going through it again.

[lonemustang]

I'd think ... that the appropriate time to send the next car onto course would be when the previous car exits the loop.Having been a starter a time or two, I can say that's what we normally do---wait until the previous car has exited the loop and is clearly not repeating it.

Seems to me like loops are typically at the beginning of the course, perhaps for that reason.