Sutton Motorsorts Park

[nrickli]

Looks like bad news for the new track for now.
http://www.camplaps.org/Info.asp

[aurorasti]

BOOOO!
We need a track!

[lundgren]

Maybe we need to stop trying to get land near development properties, and get it in the out in the middle of nowhere.

Personally I think it would take a BIG name in Denver (like John Elway), to pull it off, somebody who likes motorsports who can make things happen.

[jhadler]

How far to the middle of nowhere though? LaJunta is pretty much MON as it is.

The property that Sutton is/was working with was not the site of a potential development untill recently. From what I know, this new transportation hub idea is not terribly old. And I for one think it's pretty rediculous, seeing as DIA is RIGHT THERE. With all of the air freight infrastructure already in place.

If this site falls through, I would think a good region would be out near Greely, but I could be wrong about that. Maybe that's where the next mega-burb development project is going...:p

Even if they find a new site immediately, we're looking at YEARS before we have a track back in the greater Denver area...:( :(

-Josh2

[lundgren]

Arizona, Utah, Nevada, Kansas.. why not Colorado? WHY W H Y !!

[jhadler]

$addly, I think we all know the real rea$on why we aren't getting any nice race track$ around here the$e day$...

-Josh2

[Tom Hunsinger]

If this site falls through, I would think a good region would be out near Greely, but I could be wrong about that. Maybe that's where the next mega-burb development project is going...:p
-Josh2

I think it is too late for Greeley and get ready for a SCR redux at Pueblo, according to the FDIC:

Greeley, Colorado reported the fastest branch growth of all metropolitan markets in the United States (22 percent) for the 12-month period ending June 30, 2005. Fort Collins (10.3 percent), Boulder (8.1 percent), and Pueblo (7.9 percent) were also in the top 30 fastest growing metro markets. All of these metro areas reported population growth at or above the U.S. average.

[LoCore]

I live in Windsor, and travel regularly to Greeley.

All of the very visible residential growth is on the south and west sides of town, growing toward Denver and I-25 like every other city in NorCo.

I suspect there could be opportunities east and/or north of Greeley.

[dan86]

well, Greeley seems to let new kinds of motorsports happen up there... this past month, NASA got this parking lot ready for a Drift Session. the parking lot was for a football field , part of the local recreational park that is in Greely. I took the EightSix up there, and tried it out. Lot's of cars were burnin rubber, etc. The local authorities knew about it , though didn't like the fact that it was all legit...Waivers, portapotties, insurance, etc.
Another Drift session is scheduled this April. if there was to be a new Motorsports Park, i'm sure Greeley would go for it if it were to be offered up there.

[BoulderG]

Greeley is also working with the go kart racing community for a big street race event. My info is scant, but Greeley has some interest in motorsports.

While I agree with Josh's comments about money, I'm still surprised - and very disappointed - that we in the Front Range can't get a track.

The other areas where tracks are being built also surely face development pressure.

Certainly, having heavy hitters and powerful connections would be a big help in our efforts to get a track.

But don't we have those? Man, Sutton Motorsports is a big hitter, and local.

Sports car racing and motorsports takes money. Many participants are high earners. Those kind of people are often well-connected in business and politics.

There are a lot of successful people who participate in solo, rally, track days, and road racing. Not just SCCA, but the marque clubs and other sanctioning bodies. (C'mon - by definition Ferrari club members have some dough!)

This has been the case back to the loss of the Stapleton track.

I'm left with two possible conclusions:
1. As a group, motorsports participants can't get our act together and have any influence.

2. The influence we can get isn't enough.

Considering the very hard work of so many people, I can't accept #1.

So, how can we increase #2?
Is there information on the economic benefit to non-racers from racing?
How much money is spent off-track in the community when there's a weekend event at Pueblo?

Hoping to start some conversation...
Geremy

[Scott Napier]

It sounds like Fountain is working on something too. They are kinda pissed about losing all of the tax revenue from PPIR, so they are looking at some creative ways to use land on the extreme south east side of Fountain. My neighbor is on the city planning committee and I guess they talked about for several hours over the last 3 months.

[lundgren]

The community gets upset when they have the track, the community gets upset when they don't.

Maybe the area around the Sutton project should protest the airport too, see what happends to their home values then.

[Scott Napier]

The community gets upset when they have the track, the community gets upset when they don't.

Maybe the area around the Sutton project should protest the airport too, see what happends to their home values then.

LOL... yeah, no kidding!

[leggwork]

Geremy,
somebody associated with the Pueblo track were collecting data on racer spending in the community at the last couple of events I attended there.
cheers,
bruce


Greeley is also working with the go kart racing community for a big street race event. My info is scant, but Greeley has some interest in motorsports.

While I agree with Josh's comments about money, I'm still surprised - and very disappointed - that we in the Front Range can't get a track.

The other areas where tracks are being built also surely face development pressure.

Certainly, having heavy hitters and powerful connections would be a big help in our efforts to get a track.

But don't we have those? Man, Sutton Motorsports is a big hitter, and local.

Sports car racing and motorsports takes money. Many participants are high earners. Those kind of people are often well-connected in business and politics.

There are a lot of successful people who participate in solo, rally, track days, and road racing. Not just SCCA, but the marque clubs and other sanctioning bodies. (C'mon - by definition Ferrari club members have some dough!)

This has been the case back to the loss of the Stapleton track.

I'm left with two possible conclusions:
1. As a group, motorsports participants can't get our act together and have any influence.

2. The influence we can get isn't enough.

Considering the very hard work of so many people, I can't accept #1.

So, how can we increase #2?
Is there information on the economic benefit to non-racers from racing?
How much money is spent off-track in the community when there's a weekend event at Pueblo?

Hoping to start some conversation...
Geremy